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Post by Denial048 Sun 02 Oct 2011, 1:30 pm

Just obtained Black from an online source, and was wondering if anyone had any tips on playing?

The last version I played that was actually paid for was Pokemon Crystal, and since then I played the next generation emulated, and thats about it, so I've been out of the pokemon loop for quite a while. I started with Oshawott (I thought they all looked stupid so I made my fiancee decide lol)
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Sun 02 Oct 2011, 3:17 pm

Denial048 wrote:Just obtained Black from an online source, and was wondering if anyone had any tips on playing?

The last version I played that was actually paid for was Pokemon Crystal, and since then I played the next generation emulated, and thats about it, so I've been out of the pokemon loop for quite a while. I started with Oshawott (I thought they all looked stupid so I made my fiancee decide lol)

How did you get Black, I'd also like White if it can be found. I got an emulator for Diamond and Pearl today, but all the ones after that I need. If you know where I can get them, that would be great.
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Post by Denial048 Sun 02 Oct 2011, 5:23 pm

I downloaded No$GBA from here: No$GBA

then had to find some working Black and White roms.

I torrented these ones [English][Patched_ROM][www.consolas]Black & White Torrent and then had to follow these instructions to get them working.

I have already gotten past the second gym, so, so far, the game works fine
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Post by kING Of Occult Sun 02 Oct 2011, 8:51 pm

i have played every pokemon game lol Smile
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Post by nolinc Sun 02 Oct 2011, 9:59 pm

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/244/4/c/samurott_by_mastodonmaster-d48jrg6.jpg

Good choice in any case, though all of the starters are mildly decent for the main game this time around...
As for tips... well, tips about what exactly...
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:42 am

Well is there anything I should look out for early in the game? (I found the person that gives you the elemental monkey based on your starter choice)

What was your other pokemon to use for combat? I'm training a black cat thing at the moment, can't remember the name right now, and a munna, but I catch anything I run in to. My Dewott is level 25 already, then my party is filled with level 10's
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Mon 03 Oct 2011, 1:35 am

I used Samurott, Zoroark ( thanks HG event) two guys I imported, Axew (you'll need to backtrack) and Elektrik (you get these little guys in a lightning cave. Look for them in the basement; electrics w/ levitate rock)
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Mon 03 Oct 2011, 1:38 am

Also, find a Munna in the area in the story they appear (you'll know it) they are good tanks and learn psybeam quickly, but otherwise have NO offensive attacks until lvl 50 psychic. Use Tms.
You can swap elektrik for the elec spider or the zebra thing (you'll see them) but I don't like them as much. Although the spider is badass.
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 8:42 am

Yeah I grabbed a Munna there, he just learnt psybeam actually. Thanks for warning me on basically needing TMs with him. I got that electric zebra guy, guess I'll pull him out of the pc.

Cheers for the advice
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Mon 03 Oct 2011, 8:49 am

One more thing- when you pick fossils (you do in every game) pick the Wing. The shell is some water turtle you don't need with Samurott. Wing has Archen, a badass little rock/flying archaeopteryx with a monstrous atk stat until it hits half health. I think it can fly after evolution.
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 9:21 am

Ah, thanks for the advice! Yeah, not interested in another water type, so I woulda been a little pissed off.

At least, due to my playing methods, I can actually "obtain" any pokemon I want/need lol
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 9:22 am

Denial048 wrote:At least, due to my playing methods, I can actually "obtain" any pokemon I want/need lol

Isn't that a wonderful thing about emulators? Can you see if you can upload the ROM files you have into a folder and PM them to me?
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 9:31 am

I can certainly try......

Would you prefer them zipped?
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 9:48 am

Well I have compressed them into a .7z file, chaged them from 512MB to 122MB, but upload station still says it'll take 40 minutes to upload

Link to 7Zip download, if necessary: 7Zip
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 9:50 am

Wow, that's a long time. If it works though, I owe you man.
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 9:53 am

Eh, forget about it.

It didn't take much, and finally made me sign up to an upload site. Anyway, gonna play Black now for a bit, i'll let ya know when it's done and give ya a link
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 9:53 am

Denial048 wrote:Eh, forget about it.

It didn't take much, and finally made me sign up to an upload site. Anyway, gonna play Black now for a bit, i'll let ya know when it's done and give ya a link

Cool, thanks.
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 11:10 am

File name: Poke_Black_&_White.7z File size: 122.49 MB

Uploadstation provided that exact bit of code, lol.
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 11:14 am

Thanks man. Hey, now everyone else can get it too! Very Happy
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 11:17 am

Yeah, seeing as everything they need has been linked to from here!

Just to refresh the links for people:

No$GBA - The Emulator

Pokemon Black & White - The ROM's

7Zip Portable - The Extractor

How To - The Rules


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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 11:19 am

That is really cool, you just did a lot of nice things. cheers
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 11:21 am

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:That is really cool, you just did a lot of nice things. cheers

YAY I did something nice!
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 11:29 am

Denial048 wrote:
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:That is really cool, you just did a lot of nice things. cheers

YAY I did something nice!

No, you did several nice things.
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Mon 03 Oct 2011, 11:58 am

If you're using the emulators, I can give you a nice, long list of awesome DS titles. TWEWY might seem weird at first, but it's still really good. And I'd give Radiant Historia a shot, L, since it's pretty much a homage to the 16-bit era of JRPGs with more time travel. As a FF/Chrono fan, I loved it.
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm

I probably wont get to play them much, got a lot to do at the moment so I'm barely ever on the computer
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:27 pm

LordDeathkeeper wrote:If you're using the emulators, I can give you a nice, long list of awesome DS titles. TWEWY might seem weird at first, but it's still really good. And I'd give Radiant Historia a shot, L, since it's pretty much a homage to the 16-bit era of JRPGs with more time travel. As a FF/Chrono fan, I loved it.

Will keep it in mind, now, since we have to use the mouse for a stylus, make sure that all of these will be realistic to do so. I also plan on getting the Chrono Trigger revamp with the extra dungeons...I really need more hours in the day. I mostly do homework and go to classes, eat, and get an hour or so of games in a day, and having played Pokemon games and Chrono Trigger before, I know that this is going to be a long haul.
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:31 pm

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:
LordDeathkeeper wrote:If you're using the emulators, I can give you a nice, long list of awesome DS titles. TWEWY might seem weird at first, but it's still really good. And I'd give Radiant Historia a shot, L, since it's pretty much a homage to the 16-bit era of JRPGs with more time travel. As a FF/Chrono fan, I loved it.

Will keep it in mind, now, since we have to use the mouse for a stylus, make sure that all of these will be realistic to do so. I also plan on getting the Chrono Trigger revamp with the extra dungeons...I really need more hours in the day. I mostly do homework and go to classes, eat, and get an hour or so of games in a day, and having played Pokemon games and Chrono Trigger before, I know that this is going to be a long haul.
Well, TWEWY is mostly touch screen with the d-pad (presumably your w a s d keys) as controls, but in general it's just clicking and dragging stuff out of battle for menus and movement, and the battles aren't much worse, just avoid the VERY rare microphone-based attacks.
RH is almost all button controls, all touch screen controls optional. Just warning you though, it's very difficult to 100% without a guide, since there's a ton of sidequests to do and several of them are necessary for the best ending.
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Post by nolinc Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:33 pm

Don't use the monkey if you can avoid it. They aren't great.

Electross or Galvantula (you get them both in the same place) are much better than the Zebra.

Grass wise, most options are good. Lilligant and Leavanny are good options.
Fire, Darmatian is supposedly great but I've never used it. Chandlelier or whatever the ghost/fire is also really good.

Get rid of Purloin. Worthless thing sadly...

Honestly, there are plenty of good choices that should be apparent. I'd avoid the ice types though...
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:34 pm

I think I'll stick with Pokemon, Chrono Trigger, and Zelda for now, but I'll keep them in mind.
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:I think I'll stick with Pokemon, Chrono Trigger, and Zelda for now, but I'll keep them in mind.
Go for Phantom Hourglass; Spirit Tracks was very disappointing. and not in the fanboy "there's no epona!" way, the game was often boring and frustrating.
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm

LordDeathkeeper wrote:
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:I think I'll stick with Pokemon, Chrono Trigger, and Zelda for now, but I'll keep them in mind.
Go for Phantom Hourglass; Spirit Tracks was very disappointing. and not in the fanboy "there's no epona!" way, the game was often boring and frustrating.

I already have Phantom Hourglass, and I know a few people who all think Spirit Tracks was great...probably going to skip that one though, again, not enough time...
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:41 pm

My current six are:
Munna (LV 16)
Dewott (LV 25)
Lillipup (LV 11) {I love randomly getting free stuff lol}
Purrloin (LV 16)
Blitzle (LV 10)
Pidove (LV Cool

I basically just switch out dewott every battle, use that to level up the others.

But I do have a question about levelling!

So, I have both a moon stone and fire stone, when do you recommend evolving Munna and Pansear? Are they worth evolving? And according the the poke wiki, the evolutions don't learn moves! I think thats wrong, but yeah
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:50 pm

Okay, just started Black, got through the two fights with my friends, took the fire one. Seriously, snivy? That is the stupidest named and one of the dumbest looking Pokemon I have ever seen.
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:51 pm

That's right. Don't evolve Munna until you like her moveset. Lillipup is okay, but I dislike it. Purloin sucks, Blitzle is inferior to electross and the spider thing, pidove is flat-out bad.
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:55 pm

Okay cool, not evolving munna yet then!

Well I haven't run into the other electric types yet, so ill keep blitzle for now, but probably just focus on Munna and Dewott. The others are just so I have a full party
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Post by Denial048 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 1:05 pm

YAY! Just got the EXP. Share, so no more battle switching!
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Post by Denial048 Wed 05 Oct 2011, 1:29 pm

Just caught a Joltik! YAY!
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Post by MonkeyBones23 Wed 05 Oct 2011, 1:30 pm

Nolinc's favorite pokemon
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Post by Denial048 Wed 05 Oct 2011, 2:17 pm

Just evolved my Munna at level 38, she learnt psychic already, the only other move from the standard moveset I wanted was dream eater, which is also a TM so yeah...
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Thu 06 Oct 2011, 3:50 pm

Okay, on route 1 heading towards the first town, I caught a patrat and lillipup, just thought I'd let you know.
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Thu 06 Oct 2011, 4:01 pm

I don't care what you guys said about the fossils, I'm so getting the turtle. I am a turtle addict and it look so awesome! I might have been looking through the Pokedex online a bit...okay a lot...some of them are plain sad though, seriously...
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Post by Denial048 Thu 06 Oct 2011, 9:54 pm

Yeah I've looked through the pokedex abit, but not too much. I don't like my Archeon (sp?) due to it's ability, wherein when HP is below half, attack drops as well. How sh*t!
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Fri 07 Oct 2011, 3:41 am

I'm now in the first town with a gym, although I'm going to train outside of it a bit first so that I can get my Pokemon to higher levels. I think my fire pig is 11 or 12, and I'm going to get the others to at least 10. What kind of gym is it?
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Fri 07 Oct 2011, 6:12 am

Denial048 wrote:Yeah I've looked through the pokedex abit, but not too much. I don't like my Archeon (sp?) due to it's ability, wherein when HP is below half, attack drops as well. How sh*t!
Yeah, that is his only ability. I mentioned that above. It's okay, because his evolved form has the highest ATk stat in the game.
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Fri 07 Oct 2011, 6:27 am

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Denial048 wrote:Yeah I've looked through the pokedex abit, but not too much. I don't like my Archeon (sp?) due to it's ability, wherein when HP is below half, attack drops as well. How sh*t!
Yeah, that is his only ability. I mentioned that above. It's okay, because his evolved form has the highest ATk stat in the game.

As long as it's completely healthy at least...I still want the turtle, I play for fun, not to be amazing. I love me some turtle! Very Happy
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Fri 07 Oct 2011, 6:29 am

Yeah, but he already has a water type, so he's unnecessary for that team.
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Fri 07 Oct 2011, 6:31 am

LordDeathkeeper wrote:Yeah, but he already has a water type, so he's unnecessary for that team.

I'm just saying what I'm gonna do. I took the fire pig to start with.
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Fri 07 Oct 2011, 6:43 am

Samurai Otter> self cooking bacon.
Although I don't like any of them, so I just imported a charmander.
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Post by LaLiLuLeLo Fri 07 Oct 2011, 6:46 am

LordDeathkeeper wrote:Samurai Otter> self cooking bacon.
Although I don't like any of them, so I just imported a charmander.

He was just the one that seemed cool, plus Denial already had the water one so I didn't want to copy him. Snivy is just such a stupid word, and I couldn't deal with that. Besides, the pig is cute, the water one is stuck up.
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Post by LordDeathkeeper Fri 07 Oct 2011, 6:55 am

I didnt get that feeling at all. Snivy is supposed to look pompous, but -Wott just looks kinda dumb, only to turn almost cool as Dewott.
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